How did you get your start in Racing? I went to Raceway one night with my sister and brother-in-law. They were running midgets that night and announced that the stock cars would be there the next week. Well, I went back and really liked what I saw and thought I can do this. I bought a used 49 ford in 1952 that was #27 and was really in need of repair (as I soon found out). The first night out at Raceway the steering box bolts broke, I couldn't steer and crashed Johnny Schipper who was none to happy with me
Why #4U ? The guy that owned the car operated the 4U club in Calumet City and Harry Moyer drove it. A bunch of guys were there we started shooting craps and I won the car. I've always felt that 4U was lucky for me so I kept it.
How long before you won your first Feature race? I drove for a few years before I won my first race (a heat race) and my first feature was early in 1960 with my 56 0lds. Legs Whitcomb & Ted Janecyk had wins while driving my cars.
What was your favorite car? My favorite cars (because there were so many) had to be my 69 Chevelle in 1970-71 which I built, the 75 Corvette suspension 74 Camaro (it was fast but wouldn't last), and of course the Bemco Camaro in 80-81
What was your favorite track? Of course Raceway is because it was my home track, but I always ran really good at Illiana winning a few features there on Sunday afternoons before we came back to Raceway Sunday night. I didn't get to race too much at Grundy because of work but I liked the track.
What victories stand out? The 300 lappers in 1965 and 1967 boy they were tough!
What victory that got away stands out? Probably the 300 lapper in 1970, the pace was a little faster than I liked so I saved a little for the end and was really coming on strong when I blew a left rear tire that spun me and wrapped itself around the quickchange. That year my car was good I won a few races and made some decent money.
How hard was it racing 4 nights a week? For me racing 4 nights a week was hard because I worked from 8 to 4:30 and then spent whatever time was left keeping the car going. I made up my mind not to get to aggressive and wreck the car and take what I could get without damage. The cars were easier to maintain than today's cars unless you wrecked them. Most of the cars were one of a kind built with whatever parts and materials you could scrounge up. A friend of mine Rich Damm would take the car to the track for me and was a vital part of me being able to race 4 nights a week and sometimes five when we ran Illiana.
Tell the fans about your big crash over the wall... It was in the 1962 during the 300 at Raceway and I was starting to come on real strong having unlapped myself and was about a half lap down to the leaders. Heading into turn one the axle snapped and pulled out dropping the car down on the left rear and raising the right front. The wall was going to hurt, I closed my eyes, and the next thing I know is I'm in the parking lot, the track is behind me and spectator cars damaged all around me. I couldn't believe I wasn't hurt. You can still see where I went out. The fence is bent down and the metal wall has a bigger patch over it.
Ever been injured in a race? In 1962 it was raining lightly at the start of a feature and I got clipped by someone sending me head on into the ambulance gate. Didn't have no broken bones but got a few stitches. In 1964 someone blew a motor and I backed my 60 chevy into the wall and once again I needed stitches above my eye. Sure broke a lot of steering wheels back then.
Why purple cars all the time? Actually my 50 Olds was a pale pink that was popular. The 56 Olds in 1960 was Burgundy Mist which became my trademark color until it wasn't available anymore.
What did you like most about Raceway Park? The fans who came to see us race. Most of them came all four nights. Raceway was also close to Roseland so getting there was easy.
What did you like least? The track officials sometimes weren't to consistent in their rulings and enforcement's.
Describe your relationship with Pete Jenin... Pete is certainly something that they broke the mold after him. It's his track and he does what he thinks he needs to do. We never had bad words, but we sure get along a lot better since I've retired.
Describe your relationship with Bud Koehler... Bud was as tough as they come. As I started running better we talked which let me know I was running better. He'd always say something after our battles on the track, but since he retired he has stopped by at SRC a few times and always talks to me at the memorabilia show.
Describe your relationship with Bob Pronger... Bob was one of the best drivers in a stock car. He would steer your car wherever he wanted and you couldn't do nothing about it. We were close friends. He bought my 65 Chevelle in 67 during the season. He let me have it back after Koehler won his 300th feature. He used to tell me if I couldn't get past Koehler, move over and he'd make enough room for me when he went by. We had a certain amount of respect for each other.
Who were your best friends in racing? Bill Cornwall, Harry Simonsen, Legs, Ted Janecyk, John Slowiak, Bob Slepski, Bill McEnery, Bob Pronger & Paul Bauer.
Who were the toughest to race against? Bud Koehler, Bob Pronger, Jerry Kemperman, Dave Weltmeyer & Frank Gawlinski. To many to list.
Who was the hardest to pass? Bud Koehler....You always had to park him so he couldn't get you back the next corner. You don't want him to be on your bumper with one lap to go.
Who were your favorite drivers growing up? No favorite driver unless as my sons say Ben Hur.
Who are your favorite local drivers now? Being involved with SRC I have many favorites but Mike White, Dave Weltmeyer, Kevin Reidy, Joe O'Connor & Pete Resetar are friends as well.
Who is your favorite NASCAR driver? Dale Earnhardt Jr. Who helped you the most in your racing career? Thru the years-- Bill Cornwall, Legs Whitcomb, Ed Kusyn (pit crew) Rich Damm (pit crew) Bob Pronger Bill Koenig, Ray Young, My sons Stash and Wayne.
Any feuds or rivalries? One night Dan Colyer (James Bond #007) spun me coming out of four on the last lap of the feature. He drove into my door and shoved me across the finish line all the while I was pounding on his hood of his car. After we stopped I flew out of the car and chased him on foot. He backed into a pole or something in the infield. I never forgot that. Rivalry was certainly the word when I raced against my son Wayne.
Any funny stories you want to share? One night the late models went out on strike. We were all in the pit road and Larry Middleton was speaking because he was the defending champion. Pete Jenin looked at him and said something derogatory. It was funny because Pete didn't know who he was. He didn't even know his own track champion. The steamroller episode was funny to unless your car was on the track. I'm sure he would've flattened someone's car if they weren't moved. |